Questions from members.
Free throw administration.
Free throw administration.
Free throw administration.
Question 1: Does a player wearing contact lenses OR needing the use of an inhaler have to be noted in the book? A referee from another board pointed this out to me and it was the first time I heard this. He said that if a time out was called for the purpose of looking for a dislodged contact lens and it wasn't noted in the book that the player wore contact lenses, it would result in a technical on the coach….same for the inhaler use. Makes sense to me but again, this is the first time I have heard this.
Answer: From the National IAABO Interpreter, Peter Webb.
When contact lenses first arrived on the basketball scene, a procedure was in place to inquire at the pre-game meeting with captains and head coaches whether any team members were wearing contact lenses. If so, the head coach was asked to have the official scorer mark those players in the scorebook. Is it necessary for such a policy today? From the for whatever it is worth department, my response is NO. Is it permissible for the game's referee to inquire and have the scorebook marked should there be lenses? YES.
I am not sure if the modern contact lenses do not become dislodged to the extent that the earlier lenses did. To my knowledge (I see approx 170 games per year in person), there is not a problem with contact lenses in the past many years.
The advice that I would offer is to place TRUST in the player's and/or head coach's honesty. Should there be a claim of a lost lens, allow reasonable time to attend to finding it. At the same time, the referee should attend to seeing that the time is not being used by the head coach to counsel players. Rather the coach and players should be assisting in locating the missing lens.
The situation does not call for a time-out or a technical foul. A further comment regarding the note and a reference to a "technical foul" being charged to the head coach. The only justification for a technical foul would be having precise information that an alleged dislodging of a lens was choreographed by the head coach....that would be very difficult to prove and if so, very, very rare. As a general comment, the very strongest penalty would be a charged time-out.
The time consumed in looking for a lens is to be officiated by rule, just as an injured player situation is officiated. If the lens can be found immediately (about 15 seconds) and replaced on the eye, the player may remain in the game and there is no time-out charged. Otherwise, allow the time to look for the lens. When the effort to find ends (successful or not), the player would have to be removed and substituted for or the team would have to request a time-out. If during the time-out the player could have a lens in place, he/she could remain in the game.
Question 2: In a girls JV game, there was a question about a young woman who, for religious reasons, needed to cover her legs/arms. I'm told she wore "leggings" and a long sleeve tee shirt. Can a player, for religious reasons, wear leggings/tights and long sleeve tee shirts? (BTW, head coverings are permissible in this situation.)
Answer: After reviewing our manual, talking to the state and national IAABO interpreters, and speaking to Tony Romano of the MIAA, here was my response:
As to the shirt, per Rule 3.5 Art. 5, as long as the sleeves are the same length, long sleeve shirts are permissible if they are a solid single color similar to the torso of the jersey (of course no frayed or ragged edges). However, logo names (such as Hollister, cannot be shown). In tonight's game, I would have allowed her to wear it but, inside out with no tag showing, and no logo name showing.
As to the leggings, note Case 3.5.7 Situation B. A player, for religious reasons, may not wear shorts. Pants are allowed (must be team color) but players may not wear tights or other undergarments under the shorts that extend bellow the shorts. Thus no leggings or tights. But pants are certainly allowed.
She could wear extra long shorts, perhaps borrowing them from the boys team, and cover her legs with knee high socks. Under the shorts, but not extending lower than the shorts, she could wear compression shorts. Tights or leggings are illegal but this works.
Of course the long sleeve tee-shirt of appropriate color (home or away), with no logo visible, is legal. We should try to contact that girl's coach so that the player complies to the uniform rules going forward.
Question 3: I know you have addressed the issue of players rolling the tops of their pants over, but a number of coaches have mentioned that the school purchased uniforms that were too large and the girls needed to roll the tops over to make sure they were tight enough to stay up. Any thoughts about this?
Answer: In the captains/coaches meetings, we are asking the coaches if their uniforms comply. If not, per Rule 3.3.5, they shall be directed to leave the game. I suggest those shorts be tailored.
Question 4: If a team has a throw-in, there is no team or player control for the purpose of determining backcourt on the throw-in, but what about a foul? If a teammate of the thrower-in pushes off and commits a foul, would free throws be awarded or is it a team control foul? If the thrower-in commits a foul, would it be a player control foul, or
would free throws be awarded?
Answer: Please note that the rule was changed to cover the throw-in. No shots are taken after a player control or team control foul. Team control starts when the ball is at the disposal of the player making the throw-in. Rule 4.12. Art. 2d.
Question 5: If a player scores and is fouled in the act of shooting, and then an intentional foul is called when an opponent pushes him, how many free throws would he be awarded?
Answer: This play really needs to be seen to rule correctly (timing, etc) but here goes. If the foul against the shooter was intentional, the answer lies in Case 4.19.3 Situation A. Whether successful or unsuccessful, the player fouled is awarded 2 foul shots and that player's team is awarded a throw-in at the out-of-bounds spot nearest the foul. Now if the "intentional" was a dead ball foul that followed the original foul, you have a false multiple foul. If the shot was successful, the shooter would be given 1 foul shot. Two shots if unsuccessful. The second foul would have to be ruled a technical foul and possibly flagrant, depending upon the severity. Two additional foul shots (by any team member) and retaining the ball for a throw-in at the division line.
Observation:
From Ray McClure, Georgia interpreter and nationally renowned clinician who bleeds IAABO:
"I had a "game experience" last Friday night, which you may find helpful, should you be in this situation.
One of our crew members observed a TEAM MEMBER dunk the ball during warm-ups. Since I did not witness the DUNKING...I asked him, "Is there any doubt as to whether the kid actually dunked the ball?" His response was, "He dunked it. No question about it." So...I informed the scorer that the game would begin with two free throws by the home team. Following the division line throw-in and during the next dead ball with the clock stopped...the coach was standing...so I went to the acting head coach and said, "Coach, due to the technical foul, you have no coaching box and must be seated. Thank you."
Later in the game...a PLAYER for the home team is charged with a Technical Foul. A few minutes later, during a free throw, the visiting team's coach says, while pointing to the home team's bench area, "Why is he (the home team's coach) standing? They got a technical foul too." I told him, "Their technical foul was on a PLAYER." He said, "Ours was on a player." I said, "No. Yours was on a TEAM MEMBER and there is a difference between a PLAYER and a TEAM MEMBER." Since our dialog was pleasant...I said, "There is a lot less frustration when we learn this stuff, huh?" He smiled and agreed and the game continued.
The purpose in sharing this incident is this...
BASKETBALL OFFICIALS SHOULD ALWAYS SPEAK WITH RULES BOOK LANGUAGE. There is never a time when members of "The Officiating Family" should speak like the fans, the coaches, the players or the "talking heads" on TV. WE ARE THE PROFESSIONALS, so let's use the language of our PROFESSION.
Board 152 Interpreter
Tom Madden
[email protected]
Answer: From the National IAABO Interpreter, Peter Webb.
When contact lenses first arrived on the basketball scene, a procedure was in place to inquire at the pre-game meeting with captains and head coaches whether any team members were wearing contact lenses. If so, the head coach was asked to have the official scorer mark those players in the scorebook. Is it necessary for such a policy today? From the for whatever it is worth department, my response is NO. Is it permissible for the game's referee to inquire and have the scorebook marked should there be lenses? YES.
I am not sure if the modern contact lenses do not become dislodged to the extent that the earlier lenses did. To my knowledge (I see approx 170 games per year in person), there is not a problem with contact lenses in the past many years.
The advice that I would offer is to place TRUST in the player's and/or head coach's honesty. Should there be a claim of a lost lens, allow reasonable time to attend to finding it. At the same time, the referee should attend to seeing that the time is not being used by the head coach to counsel players. Rather the coach and players should be assisting in locating the missing lens.
The situation does not call for a time-out or a technical foul. A further comment regarding the note and a reference to a "technical foul" being charged to the head coach. The only justification for a technical foul would be having precise information that an alleged dislodging of a lens was choreographed by the head coach....that would be very difficult to prove and if so, very, very rare. As a general comment, the very strongest penalty would be a charged time-out.
The time consumed in looking for a lens is to be officiated by rule, just as an injured player situation is officiated. If the lens can be found immediately (about 15 seconds) and replaced on the eye, the player may remain in the game and there is no time-out charged. Otherwise, allow the time to look for the lens. When the effort to find ends (successful or not), the player would have to be removed and substituted for or the team would have to request a time-out. If during the time-out the player could have a lens in place, he/she could remain in the game.
Question 2: In a girls JV game, there was a question about a young woman who, for religious reasons, needed to cover her legs/arms. I'm told she wore "leggings" and a long sleeve tee shirt. Can a player, for religious reasons, wear leggings/tights and long sleeve tee shirts? (BTW, head coverings are permissible in this situation.)
Answer: After reviewing our manual, talking to the state and national IAABO interpreters, and speaking to Tony Romano of the MIAA, here was my response:
As to the shirt, per Rule 3.5 Art. 5, as long as the sleeves are the same length, long sleeve shirts are permissible if they are a solid single color similar to the torso of the jersey (of course no frayed or ragged edges). However, logo names (such as Hollister, cannot be shown). In tonight's game, I would have allowed her to wear it but, inside out with no tag showing, and no logo name showing.
As to the leggings, note Case 3.5.7 Situation B. A player, for religious reasons, may not wear shorts. Pants are allowed (must be team color) but players may not wear tights or other undergarments under the shorts that extend bellow the shorts. Thus no leggings or tights. But pants are certainly allowed.
She could wear extra long shorts, perhaps borrowing them from the boys team, and cover her legs with knee high socks. Under the shorts, but not extending lower than the shorts, she could wear compression shorts. Tights or leggings are illegal but this works.
Of course the long sleeve tee-shirt of appropriate color (home or away), with no logo visible, is legal. We should try to contact that girl's coach so that the player complies to the uniform rules going forward.
Question 3: I know you have addressed the issue of players rolling the tops of their pants over, but a number of coaches have mentioned that the school purchased uniforms that were too large and the girls needed to roll the tops over to make sure they were tight enough to stay up. Any thoughts about this?
Answer: In the captains/coaches meetings, we are asking the coaches if their uniforms comply. If not, per Rule 3.3.5, they shall be directed to leave the game. I suggest those shorts be tailored.
Question 4: If a team has a throw-in, there is no team or player control for the purpose of determining backcourt on the throw-in, but what about a foul? If a teammate of the thrower-in pushes off and commits a foul, would free throws be awarded or is it a team control foul? If the thrower-in commits a foul, would it be a player control foul, or
would free throws be awarded?
Answer: Please note that the rule was changed to cover the throw-in. No shots are taken after a player control or team control foul. Team control starts when the ball is at the disposal of the player making the throw-in. Rule 4.12. Art. 2d.
Question 5: If a player scores and is fouled in the act of shooting, and then an intentional foul is called when an opponent pushes him, how many free throws would he be awarded?
Answer: This play really needs to be seen to rule correctly (timing, etc) but here goes. If the foul against the shooter was intentional, the answer lies in Case 4.19.3 Situation A. Whether successful or unsuccessful, the player fouled is awarded 2 foul shots and that player's team is awarded a throw-in at the out-of-bounds spot nearest the foul. Now if the "intentional" was a dead ball foul that followed the original foul, you have a false multiple foul. If the shot was successful, the shooter would be given 1 foul shot. Two shots if unsuccessful. The second foul would have to be ruled a technical foul and possibly flagrant, depending upon the severity. Two additional foul shots (by any team member) and retaining the ball for a throw-in at the division line.
Observation:
From Ray McClure, Georgia interpreter and nationally renowned clinician who bleeds IAABO:
"I had a "game experience" last Friday night, which you may find helpful, should you be in this situation.
One of our crew members observed a TEAM MEMBER dunk the ball during warm-ups. Since I did not witness the DUNKING...I asked him, "Is there any doubt as to whether the kid actually dunked the ball?" His response was, "He dunked it. No question about it." So...I informed the scorer that the game would begin with two free throws by the home team. Following the division line throw-in and during the next dead ball with the clock stopped...the coach was standing...so I went to the acting head coach and said, "Coach, due to the technical foul, you have no coaching box and must be seated. Thank you."
Later in the game...a PLAYER for the home team is charged with a Technical Foul. A few minutes later, during a free throw, the visiting team's coach says, while pointing to the home team's bench area, "Why is he (the home team's coach) standing? They got a technical foul too." I told him, "Their technical foul was on a PLAYER." He said, "Ours was on a player." I said, "No. Yours was on a TEAM MEMBER and there is a difference between a PLAYER and a TEAM MEMBER." Since our dialog was pleasant...I said, "There is a lot less frustration when we learn this stuff, huh?" He smiled and agreed and the game continued.
The purpose in sharing this incident is this...
BASKETBALL OFFICIALS SHOULD ALWAYS SPEAK WITH RULES BOOK LANGUAGE. There is never a time when members of "The Officiating Family" should speak like the fans, the coaches, the players or the "talking heads" on TV. WE ARE THE PROFESSIONALS, so let's use the language of our PROFESSION.
- How many PLAYERS does a team have? 5 Everyone else associated with the team has a different name or title.
- Do PLAYERS ever come off the bench during a fight situation? NO The PLAYERS are already on the court.
- How many PLAYERS does a team have during warm-ups? 0 Only TEAM MEMBERS warm-up before the game and at half-time.
- One More For The Road: How many bases are there in basketball? 0 If there are no bases...there is no need for baselines. (Rule 1.2)
Board 152 Interpreter
Tom Madden
[email protected]
Free throw administration.
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